The Ascension of the Planet Landras


Before the fall of Lucifer an enormous field existed in which many lights worked. Through Lucifer’s fall and because of the hail of comets following his violent explosion this field was pulled into the depths. One part of this field remained in the divine Reality. The rest was removed from the magnetic lines. At the end of the day 389 own planets with their own energy formed, but they are all connected. Basically these 389 planets are a huge field. For this reason the beings of the other planets are very similar to us and subject to the same laws.

All 389 planets have to ascend again for the perfect sound to ring out. All 389 planets have to return to the magnetic fields. The first 12 planets that ascend are very important. When they have ascended there will be a chain reaction and other planets will be raised as well.

The planet Landras

The first of the 389 planets has already carried out its ascension. This planet is called Landras and is now in the adaptation phase. The solar system of Landras is not far away from us. The time window of Landras was 2007, in 2011 the ascension took place.

On Landras many things are very similar to what we know. On Landras there are the same laws. The beings have organs and a body that has formed. They know Lemuria, the promise, the oldest frequency, the various frequencies, the various epochs. Thus God sent something onto each planet that we call Christ or Jesus or Son of God. On Landras the name is God’s Pearl.

The beings on Landras resemble us very much. Some abilities are more highly developed than ours, others again less. The beings there also received good training. It is all very similar to here with us.

I speak with the medium Norina from Landras and other beings very, very much about the ascension of their planet. Norina also belongs to the oldest frequency there. It is highly interesting what I am being told. I would like to share this with you.

The ascension

Before the ascenion the beings on Landras felt, the way we do too, that time is running very fast. What used to be one hour now feels like half an hour. This feeling that everything is going incredibly fast, everything manifests very fast, is the same with us.

Norina told me that something very special changed after the time window of 2007, and they took everything even more seriously. From 2007 an enormously higher number of beings opened themselves for spirituality more. The beings on Landras were already very far advanced in their consciousness. In order to prepare for the ascension they already changed their living situations before the ascension and founded big communities sharing homes. This helped them very much. The planet is not as densely populated as ours. Many so-called speakers, spokespersons and healers got together in order to live and work together.

The ascension was initiated with the perfect sound and there was an enormous earth quake on Landras, just as it is going to happen here. There are no volcanos there, consequently there was no volcanic eruption and no possible darkness that might be caused by ash. Through the perfect sound the Lucifer energy was transformed. Everything that was still necessary was transformed. Almost all the old structures collapsed. Nothing is as it once was.

The awakening of each being happened very suddenly, very quickly. When the perfect sound rang out they felt it to be, against what they had imagined, very unpleasant. It began to vibrate and became louder and louder. This sound became so extreme that the beings on the planet were not able to stand any more and knelt down for as long as it lasted. At the same time they fell into a deep trance during which there was a standstill for 9 minutes of our time. During this time each single being, whether spiritual ot not, had an inner view. It was able to see itself, from its creation through all the incarnations and in each epoch. Thus everybody had the possibility to feel a deep awakening, even if he had been sleeping before. Then the trance eased off. There was no forgetting because of the trance, each being was aware of itself, knew what had happened. Now they carry the realization and the awakening in themselves.

How the children experienced the ascension there is also an interesting answer. Several nights before the ascension the babies did not sleep any more. It was easier for the children. They also had an inner view, but as it is with most of the children of the new age, they were very happy about it.

On Landras there are also Lightpioneers, just as with us. They call themselves the forerunners. Just like us they were trained and prepared in their way. Even they were surprised that the ascension took place so fast although they were able to feel that something is happening. Various beings told me that even the best trained beings had problems with the energetic appearances and light figures that they were suddenly able to see. It was a lot all at once that took place in a very short time.

The adaptation phase

After the inner view total chaos broke out. The planet ascended and all beings unavoidably awakened. But many did not have the embedded patterns that you receive through spiritual development. When a being has an inner view and suddenly knows that everything it has heard about spirituality and the ascension is true it wants to be trained as quickly as possible in its dawning of consciousness. That is the biggest problem there at the moment, for the dawning of consciousness there is not enough “staff”. That is a big challenge for the forerunners there. Because the ascension arrived so surprisingly and the crush is great they have now been fetched into the lightship of Adonai Ashtar Sheran. There they are prepared and trained once more in order to return to the planet then to support the many beings in the dawning of consciousness.

That is why one can imagine what it means when the spiritual world says: The real work begins for us Pioneers after the ascension. In the adaptation phase, in which they now are, each being has the opportunity to expand, to adapt and to stabilize the awakening. The feeling for time has not changed there, but they got a different awareness for everything. For them time is not so important any more after the ascension. They are in the adaptation phase now and they direct their focus to raising all beings in their energy, to expand them and to do their work.

Now they are trying to establish a new order on Landras, and new technologies are being used. There are many forerunners who are often in the Ashtar ship and store knowledge and new technologies. We also have many Pioneers who do this. When Landras awakened as planet this new technology was released very quickly. They are now creating new technologies which is happening very fast because of their training and may not be so easily imaginable for us. Norina has spoken much about the new technology and about the importance of the embeddings and connecting the aspects. That is something that with hindsight they see as the most important thing: The embedding of the energies from the divine Reality. Only now do they know how important it was. In the moment in which the perfect sound rings out the knowledge is released and everything goes incredibly fast.

Currently 80 percent of the Arcturians who normally work on Mother Earth have travelled to Landras in order to do their work there. Beings are needed who can travel into the interior of the planet in order to carry out stabilizations of the energy and the consciousness. At the same time this energy is tied to the planetary grid through which Landras cannot drop in the energy.

Should a being doubt what it has perceived in the trance, then all of it is transformed immediately. Nothing happens unconsciously any more. The beings do not fall back into the intellect any more. In the moment of the awakening the soul aspect was connected with the other aspects. The soul is decisive for everyting. A very high love vibration now exists on the planet.

The beings on Landras breathe prana more and see this as a matter of course as they already did this before the ascension.

What does the ascension of the planet Landras mean for us?

The beings on Landras know that all the other planets, and we too, felt the ascension. Physically it may have been perceived as extreme dizziness and tiredness or as confusion. It is also possible that you felt a deep yearning or euphoria. At all events, we all felt it. Only we were not able to connect it with the happening because we did not know of it.

The ascension of the first planet has consequences for us all. The first step is the most important one. At the moment we are in eleventh place for the ascesnion with the earth. But Norina says as so much is happening here at the moment, also with regard to the opening of the gates of Lentos, the Eleua Energy, the Prosonodo Light, it is quite possible that we will be in fifth or fourth place soon. She says we are moving our consciousness very, very fast and that the time window is named depending on consciousness. With them it was 2007, with us it is 2012. For other planets there is also a time window of 2019. But depending on how the consciousness rises the time window changes.

AN’ANASHA.

What does the ascension of the planet Landras mean for us?

The beings on Landras know that all the other planets, and we too, felt the ascension. Physically it may have been perceived as extreme dizziness and tiredness or as confusion. It is also possible that you felt a deep yearning or euphoria. At all events, we all felt it. Only we were not able to connect it with the happening because we did not know of it.

The ascension of the first planet has consequences for us all. The first step is the most important one. At the moment we are in eleventh place for the ascesnion with the earth. But Norina says as so much is happening here at the moment, also with regard to the opening of the gates of Lentos, the Eleua Energy, the Prosonodo Light, it is quite possible that we will be in fifth or fourth place soon. She says we are moving our consciousness very, very fast and that the time window is named depending on consciousness. With them it was 2007, with us it is 2012. For other planets there is also a time window of 2019. But depending on how the consciousness rises the time window changes.

AN’ANASHA.

Information through the medium Sabine Sangitar from March 9, 2011

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War, Lucifer, The Mother speaks


My Beloved hearts, I come to you again, and this time I come to you with the title of the Mother of Peace. This is a title I have earned by being the mother of the Prince of Peace and by holding a flame of peace for the earth for these past 2,000 years, during which I have been an ascended master working with this beautiful but war-torn planet.

I come to congratulate you for your efforts in giving my previous rosaries, and I come to tell you that you are indeed making a difference. I warned you in my last discourse that there is a great potential for earthquakes in the month of March, and I must tell you that this is still the case. However, I also have great hope that we can mitigate many of these earthquakes and the potential for damage and loss of life. I commend you for your efforts, and because I sense the sincerity of your hearts, I come to call your attention to one more area where I truly need your help, your love and your devotion to me.

 

A new definition of war
I have told you that the earth Mother herself is under such great strain that she can hardly hold the balance for the negative emotional energy being produced by humankind. I am sure you can see that one of the greatest causes of such negative energy is, and has been for thousands of years, war itself.

Is there any single cause that is responsible for more killing, bloodshed, anger, hatred and acts of revenge than war? I am sure you can see that no other activity causes such wholesale inhumanity as when nations go to war and seek to destroy each other, thereby destroying their own people in the process. Therefore, I come to enlist your help in giving my Miracle Peace Invocation that I am releasing this day.

I come also to explain to you what is the true cause of war on this planet, but first I desire you to understand what war is. The simplest explanation of war is that it is an extreme state of imbalance. It is a state in which all normal considerations have been blown aside by what seems to be an all-consuming necessity to fight an enemy that is considered to be the ultimate threat. Therefore, higher principles have been cast aside, and people now feel justified in doing whatever is necessary to defeat the enemy and preserve their lives and their way of life.

Oh my beloved, the very essence of life itself is balance. What keeps this planet spinning on its axis is balance. Yet as you well know, the axis of the earth is tilting, and this shows you that there is a state of imbalance on this planet. This imbalance is caused by the negative energies produced through man’s inhumanity to man, and the greatest cause of such energy is, naturally, war itself. War then is the ultimate form of imbalance known to man.

I am not saying it is the only form of imbalance but it is truly the ultimate form of imbalance. The reason being that the checks and balances that normally keep people from going to the extremes have been set aside, and now people are trapped in the ultimate illusion, namely that anything goes, that the ends can justify the means, that it is necessary to do evil that good may come and that it is necessary to kill more people in order to bring peace.

So what then is the cause of war? What causes people to become unbalanced? You see, contrary to surface appearances, human beings are not inherently evil and they are not inherently unbalanced. Human beings naturally strive to attain balance, so when they are unbalanced, it shows you that they are being manipulated by forces outside themselves.

Your scientists talk about the balance of nature, and nature, and all of the creatures of nature, are the children of the earth Mother. The earth Mother herself always strives for the perfect balance, and all of her children have a natural tendency to strive for balance. Human beings are also children of the earth Mother and have a desire for balance. Yet human beings are more than animals because human beings have lifestreams that descended from the spiritual realm. The lifestream is a child of the divine Father, and he too strives for balance. So you see that when human beings display imbalances, it is because some outside force has manipulated them into losing the natural balance of body and soul. So let us now understand that outside force.

As my son Jesus has explained on his website, the Father-Mother God created the entire world of form. The characteristics of the Father-Mother God have never been more beautifully illustrated than in the Taoist symbol of the Tai-Chi. This symbol depicts the two basic forces of the universe, and those two forces are an expanding force, which represents God the Father, and a contracting force, which represents God the Mother. The nature of God the Father is to expand, to grow and to self-transcend. The nature of God the Mother is to contract but not in a way that restricts the Father’s growth. The nature of the Mother is to provide a counterbalance to the expansive force of the Father, so that there can be balanced growth. 

Expansion is natural
What I am telling you here is that the nature of the world of form is to expand. This growth is attained through the harmonious interaction of the expansive force of the Father and the contracting force of the Mother. What you will see from this image is that the expansive and the contracting forces are not opposite, but complementary. They do not cancel each other out; they merely balance each other. Both forces are necessary, and they must have the right relationship. In other words, the interaction of the two forces produces offspring, and the form of that offspring is determined by the balance between the Father and Mother forces. 

You also see that the force of the Father is meant to be a little bit stronger than the force of the Mother. This ensures that the offspring will be alive, meaning that it is growing and self-transcending. This self-transcendence, this growth, is the very purpose, the reason for being, of the entire world of form. This is indeed why the Bible says that the father is the head of the household. This does not mean that there should be inequality among the sexes, because truly the Father and Mother God are equals in every way. They simply have different functions, different roles to play in the drama of creation.

In a family, the husband and wife should be equals, but the role of the father is to make sure that the family (and the entire universe) serves as a platform for growth and constant self-transcendence. It is the role of the mother to make sure that the growth remains balanced and that all participants are nurtured in the process. When the two forces are in the right polarity, the expanding force of the Father is always a little bit stronger than the contracting force of the Mother. If it was not, there could be no growth, and the entire universe, or a part of it, would remain stagnant.

So you now see that if one force becomes too strong, it will have the effect of creating an unbalanced state. If the force of the Father was allowed to expand without any restrictions, it would expand so forcefully that it could not sustain itself and its creation would be blown apart. In other words, if the universe was expanding in an unrestricted manner, all of the galaxies, suns and planets would be blown apart and there would be no basis for life. On the other hand, if the contracting force of the Mother becomes too strong, it will stop the growth of the Father and therefore the universe will stagnate. As your scientists have discovered, that which stagnates will begin to contract and will eventually collapse under its own weight. So you now see that the harmonious growth of the universe depends on the right polarity, the right balance, between the expansive and the contracting forces of the Father-Mother God.

 

The creation of angels
My Beloved, you now understand the two basic forces of the universe. We now need to understand that God created two distinct evolutions. God first created a number of spiritual beings that were created to serve in the heaven world, or what we might call the spiritual realm. These spiritual beings are what many human beings call angels, so for clarity let me use that terminology.

The Father-Mother God, as explained by beloved Jesus, created a world with many different layers, or realms. The lowest of these realms is the universe in which you live, namely the material universe. God then created an evolution that was separate from the angelic evolution. These beings were meant to descend into the material realm, start at the bottom and work their way up through the different levels of God’s creation. It was these beings that were the first human beings to descend to earth. As the Bible says, human beings were made a little lower than the angels, meaning that the angels were created with a higher level of God-awareness. Human beings have the opportunity to gradually acquire this God-awareness, yet they have to work to attain it by ascending through the different levels of the world of form.

Some of the angels were given the task of serving human beings and helping them in their evolution. This is a principle that you see explained by Jesus to his disciples, when he said that he who would be greatest among them should be the servant of all. You see, the highest being of all is God. Yet, contrary to the man-made image of God as an all-powerful ruler, God is also the most humble being of all. God truly is the servant of all because God has allowed its own substance, its own Being, to be imprisoned in the world form. God has allowed the conscious beings who have free will to do whatever they want with its being. God has done this to give its sons and daughters the opportunity for growth, and therefore one might say that God truly is the greatest servant of all.

By embedding its own Being in everything, God has given all beings created in its image the potential to reach the full stature of a God, which allows them to create their own universes. However, to attain that Godhood, a being needs to prove that it is willing to be the servant of those below it. So indeed, it was natural that the highest angels should be given the task of serving man who was lower than the angels. Yet some of the angels did not understand the law that I have just explained. They did not understand why they had to serve man and they were not willing to serve man. 

 

Lucifer’s rebellion
As the Bible explains, and as my son has explained, one being in particular rebelled against God’s decree that the angels serve man. His name was Lucifer, and he created a rebellion in a previous sphere. [NOTE: In the book Master keys to Spiritual Freedom, Lord Maitreya gives a deeper understanding of where Lucifer’s rebellion took place.] This rebellion was a protest against the call to serve man, and it eventually caused a great number of angels to side with Lucifer and rebel with him.

My Beloved, even though angels have free will, the free will of angels is slightly different from the free will of humans. You see, in the heaven world beings have full awareness of the laws of God. With this awareness comes responsibility, which means that a being in heaven can exercise its free will within the framework of the laws of God, but that being cannot deliberately violate the laws of God. If an angel chooses to go against the laws of God, it cannot remain in heaven, and it must therefore descend into the material universe. Humans, however, are already in the material universe and they can violate the laws of God (within certain limits) without descending any further. Obviously, humans will be fully responsible for the misuse of their free will, yet it will not have the effect that they have to leave the material universe.

To fully understand Lucifer’s rebellion, you need to realize that, contrary to popular myth, Lucifer was not an evil being. He was created by God as a being of great light. Lucifer’s problem was pride, and this caused him to feel that he knew better than God. He believed that the plan to allow humans to have free will, and the call to let angels serve them as they exercised their free will, would be a disaster. Lucifer thought it would cause lifestreams and angels to become lost and that it could cause the destruction of the material universe.

In his pride, Lucifer thought he had to save God from himself. He thought God did not understand the ramifications of his decision, and therefore Lucifer had to take it upon himself to correct God’s mistake. Lucifer began to believe that even though he clearly saw that his actions were in violation of God’s law, it was necessary to violate God’s law in order to prevent a greater calamity. Lucifer therefore became the father of the mindset that the ends can justify the means and that it is necessary to do evil that good may come.

Lucifer fell prey to the illusion that it is necessary to violate God’s law in order to preserve God’s creation. In reality, the only way to preserve God’s creation is to uphold God’s law, because God’s law ensures balanced growth. For all his light and mental sophistication, Lucifer did not understand this truth, and he never saw through his own illusion.

The war in “heaven”
The Bible tells you that there was a war in heaven, that Lucifer and his angels fought and that they were cast out. In reality, the war in heaven [Maitreay explains that this was actually a previous sphere that had not yet ascended] was not fought as a war is fought on earth. On earth both sides are fighting, but in heaven there was fighting on only one side. You see, God was not mocked by Lucifer’s rebellion. The angels that did not rebel maintained their peace, and therefore they did not engage Lucifer and his energies. They simply remained balanced in the harmony of the Father-Mother God, so that Lucifer had nothing in them whereby he could cause them to fight him.

Therefore, Lucifer was not actually cast out of heaven as explained in the Bible. Lucifer cast himself out of heaven through his rebellion against the laws of God. Lucifer cast himself out because through his rebellion he lowered the vibration of his consciousness, and when his consciousness fell below a certain level, he could no longer perceive the higher vibrations. Therefore, he could see only the lower vibrations of the material universe.

You now see that Lucifer was the only one who created the war. He saw himself in opposition to God, and he deliberately rebelled against God’s laws and the basic intent of creation itself, namely the need for self-transcendence. Lucifer attempted to draw all of the angels of his sphere into his war against God. This was a prideful act that made him think that if all of the angels took his side, then God would have to bend to his demands and his logic. Lucifer truly was consumed by pride and thought he knew better than God how the universe should be run and how lifestreams should be “saved.”

What had happened to Lucifer was that he had become afraid of growth and unwilling to transcend himself. You see, Lucifer was truly the highest of the angels in that sphere. He had risen as high as he could rise in the angelic realm and he felt very powerful and in control. Yet the law of God is self-transcendence, and when you have reached the highest level, how can you transcend yourself? You can do so only by making yourself the servant of all, and this is what Lucifer was not willing to do. Therefore, he became unbalanced, and he wanted the universe to remain the same so that he could feel he was in control.

To maintain the sense of being in control, Lucifer attempted to take the contracting force of the feminine aspect of God into an unbalanced state and stop growth. Because of this imbalance, Lucifer caused his own consciousness to become so dense that he could no longer perceive the higher vibrations of the spiritual realm. So one might say that Lucifer fell into the material realm because of an imbalance in the feminine aspect of his being, which gave him an insatiable desire for control. In order to attain this control, he sought to use the feminine force itself to restrict and contract everything, so that there was no possibility of growth and self-transcendence.

One might say that Lucifer is a prime example of a being who has perverted the Mother aspect of God. Please make an effort to understand the logic of what happens when you pervert the Mother aspect of God. When you pervert the contracting force, you can go into one of two extremes. You can refuse to grow and self-transcend, or you can demand freedom from the laws of God. You can refuse to grow or seek to grow without restrictions. Either way leads to a state of imbalance, and as a result, your consciousness becomes denser until you can no longer remain in the Father’s kingdom. You will then descend into planes in which the contracting force of the Mother becomes gradually stronger.

In the higher spiritual realms, the expanding force of the Father is stronger, and that is why the vibrations of that realm are very high. As you go towards lower levels of the world of form, you eventually descend into the material universe. The energies are gradually lowered, and that is why the material universe is denser than the spiritual realm. This does not mean that the material realm is inherently unbalanced, but it does mean that the balance between the expanding and contracting forces is slightly different than the balance in the spiritual realm.

 

The devil has come down to you
Lucifer perverted the contracting force of the Mother, and he inevitably descended into the denser realm of the material universe. For an angel, who was used to living in a higher realm, this was a very big change. Because of Lucifer’s pride, he saw it as a degradation of his rank, which in one sense one might say is true. Because of his anger against God, Lucifer greatly resented having descended to a lower realm, and even though he was the one who misused the light of the Mother, he now blamed it on the Mother of God.

You see, Lucifer descended because he refused to stop his rebellion against God. He refused to admit that he had made a mistake, and he refused to undo that mistake by making the choice to bring himself back into alignment with the laws of God. So Lucifer refused to take responsibility for his actions, and therefore he needed a scapegoat. So he blamed it on the Mother and developed intense hatred of the Mother. He also blamed it on human beings because, after all, it was his refusal to serve human beings that caused him to fall. Since he would not take responsibility for his own choice, he blamed it on human beings. That is why the Bible says that the devil has come down to you having great wrath because he knows that he has but a short time.

You see, when an angel descends into the material universe it has the potential to work its way back up to the spiritual realm, just as a human being. Yet neither of the two types of beings have forever to do this. They have a certain time to prove their worth and ascend to a higher level. If they do not ascend within the allotted time, the soul will be extinguished in the second death, as explained by Jesus. Lucifer, and all those who followed him, knew that he had only a certain time in the material realm.

Lucifer was so blinded by his anger, that he decided not to change his decision and seek to come back to God. Instead, he decided that he would carry on his self-created, one-sided war against God here in the material realm. He would use the forces of this realm, and he would try to make all humans rebel against God’s will in an attempt to avenge himself. He would attempt to destroy God’s plan for having human beings work their way up to becoming gods themselves.

My Beloved, please understand this crucial point. Lucifer’s original rebellion was based on his belief that free will would cause lifestreams to be lost and the universe to self-destruct. Everything Lucifer did after his fall, and everything his followers are doing today, centers around proving this original point. Lucifer wanted his words to become a self-fulfilling prophecy. He wanted all souls to be lost and he wanted the universe to self-destruct. If that had happened, he would have felt that he was right and that God was wrong.

Please understand the extent of Lucifer’s arrogance. He was literally ready to destroy all souls and the entire matter universe in order to prove that he was right and God was wrong. This is the ultimate perversion of the call to be the servant of all. Instead of serving all, Lucifer was willing to turn all into slaves of his desire to prove himself right. 

Do you see that there is no reasoning with this state of consciousness? Do you see that there is no way to turn such beings around and make them see the light? Those in a luciferian state of mind will wage war indefinitely against those who spring from the Mother’s substance, the ma-ter of the material universe. Therefore, the only way to remove their darkness from the earth is to bring the Light of God, the light that comes from the perfect balance between the expanding and contracting forces of God. Only this Light can replace the darkness resulting from an imbalance between the two basic forces of the universe. Imbalance is simply an absence of balance, as darkness is an absence of light.

 

Lucifer’s war against God
You now see that the plan of Lucifer is to carry on his war against God by manipulating human beings into rebelling against God’s law and thereby destroying themselves. What is the ultimate form of rebellion against God in the material universe? Well, the ultimate gift of God to human beings, to human souls, is life itself. So the ultimate rebellion against God is to take life away, either through suicide or through killing another human being.

You now see that in his war against God, Lucifer decided to attempt to manipulate human beings into waging war against each other. One aspect of this strategy is Lucifer’s attempt to prove his original point that human beings cannot use their free will responsibly. Another aspect is that war is a way for the dark forces to maintain their existence. As Jesus has explained, dark forces are cut off from the light of God, so they can absorb only light of a lower vibration. Therefore, they must manipulate people into misqualifying the light of God, so that the dark forces can steal that energy.

You now see that war serves two luciferian purposes. One is to get people to kill each other and thereby make the ultimate karma (create the ultimate imbalance) that prevents them from ascending to the spiritual realm. The other is to cause people to misqualify huge amounts of energy that the dark forces can use to sustain themselves and expand their power over human beings.

 

How dark forces manipulate human beings
What are the means whereby the dark forces seek to manipulate human beings into waging war against one another? Well, they will use any means available to them because their main goal is to cause people to become unbalanced. When people lose their balance and centeredness, they take things to the extremes, and then it is only a short step for them to fall into the same trap that Lucifer fell into and begin to believe that the ends can justify the means. [For a later teaching on this, click here]

You see, when people lose their state of balance, they fall from grace, meaning the perfect balance between the two basic forces of God. People then begin to feel agitated, to lose their sense of peace, and they begin to feel that it is necessary to do whatever it takes to restore peace. As they become increasingly agitated, they often label another group of people as the cause of their agitation. They believe these people are a threat because they are different from themselves. They feel that the imbalance is so threatening to them that the immediate need to remove the imbalance can neutralize any long-term concerns or higher principles. Therefore, they often reason that the ultimate way to restore peace is to kill the people whom they think caused the imbalance.

The main weapon used by the dark forces is to manipulate the creative process itself, a process that has four elements. The world was created from four basic elements, namely the Father, the Son, the Mother and the Holy Spirit. When these four forces exist in perfect balance, the universe will grow in a harmonious manner. If one or more of the forces is taken to the extreme, imbalance will be the result. The dark forces can use either element to manipulate people into killing each other and feeling that the killing is necessary, even justified by God. Let us look at the four elements:

  • The Father element is the expansive force, which gives lifestreams the drive to grow and the free will to self-transcend. However, the Father also defines a set of laws designed to maintain the balance of the universe, so that lifestreams can grow without destroying themselves. The Father wants to see self-transcendence, not self-destruction. He wants to see a constant and balanced growth.
  • The Mother element is the contracting force. The Mother is also the element that adapts to the creative force of the Father. The role of the Mother is to allow the expression of free will so that lifestreams can experiment and learn. However, the Mother is also a counterbalance to unrestricted growth so that lifestreams do not expand so quickly that they lose their sense of identity. The role of the Mother is to provide a safe environment and to secure balanced growth. The Mother does not stop growth, she keeps it balanced and she nurtures the lifestreams as they grow. One might say that the Father provides the drive for growth and that the Mother keeps the growth balanced. To experience balanced growth, a lifestream must maintain a certain state of balance between the expanding and contracting forces of its being. How can a lifestream maintain this balance? It does so through the consciousness of the Son. 
  • The Son is the offspring of the Father and Mother, and the role of the Son is to balance the expanding and the contracting forces by holding the vision for a balanced creation. To do this, the Son must discern what is truly the balanced growth of God and what is either too expansive or too contracting. Through the Christ consciousness, a lifestream can exercise its free will within the framework of God’s laws, and thereby it can maintain a constant and balanced growth. However, a lifestream is not created to grow simply for its own sake. As Jesus has explained many times, a lifestream is created to be a co-creator with God and express God’s perfection in the matter universe. A lifestream is created to bring God’s kingdom to earth. It can do so only through the power of the Holy Spirit. 
  • The Holy Spirit is the life force itself, and without a continual flow of the Holy Spirit, nothing could survive. The role of the Holy Spirit is to express God’s perfection in the material universe. It does so by maintaining a constant state of growth, a growth that is balanced because it expresses the perfect vision of the Son, a vision that incorporates the perfect polarity between the expanding and contracting forces of the Father-Mother God. The Holy Spirit is committed to expressing itself in perfect alignment with the laws of God.

The false polarity
My Beloved, I hope you can see that the key to survival is balance, a balanced expression of the basic forces of the universe. What the dark forces seek to do is to disturb this balance, and they do so by seeking to make lifestreams misuse either the expanding or the contracting force. They seek to manipulate lifestreams into taking one force to the extreme, thereby creating a false polarity.

The universe is created from the polarity of the Father-Mother God. The forces of the Father and Mother are not opposite or mutually exclusive. They complement each other, so when they meet, they do not cancel out each other. Instead, their interaction gives rise to a balanced creation. When a human being is balanced, it is able to create something that is sustainable, and it will continue to grow. When a society is balanced, it will not destroy itself but continue to prosper.

The plot of Lucifer was to destroy this polarity, and he did so by creating the illusion of a false polarity that is based on a perversion of the expanding and contracting forces. When the two forces become unbalanced, you create two extremes:

  • One extreme is the anti-father. This force is created by taking the absolute authority of the Father and combining it with the contracting tendency of the Mother. This creates a totalitarian form of authority that seeks to restrict people’s expression of their free will. It seeks to restrict growth through control. It sees freedom as dangerous, and therefore it seeks to eliminate the danger by removing freedom. This leads to the lie that people don’t need to follow God’s law in order to grow and self-transcend, but that everything can stay the same.
  • The other extreme is the anti-mother. This force takes the expanding drive of the Father and combines it with the adaptability of the Mother. This creates a drive for freedom without any restrictions, leading to rebellion against the laws of God that are defined to sustain a balanced growth. This leads to a philosophy of government that seeks to remove all laws or restrictions. It claims to work for freedom, but fails to see that freedom can exist only within the safe framework of God’s laws. This leads to the lie that people don’t need to follow God’s laws about balanced growth, but that they can do whatever feels good at the moment without worrying about long-term consequences or higher principles.

These two forces form a false polarity because they are opposite and mutually exclusive. The desire for control cancels out the desire for no restrictions, and thus the interaction of the two forces can never produce sustainable offspring. They can only produce a continued tension and imbalance. My Beloved, it is the tension between these two false polarities that has been the source of all conflicts you have seen in human society since the beginning of time.

 

Since their fall, the dark forces have attempted to manipulate people into pledging their loyalty to one of these extremes. Their first step is to pervert the consciousness of the Son. They do this by making people subscribe to the idea that there is no absolute or ultimate truth because everything is relative. This is the consciousness that the serpent used to tempt Eve in the Garden of Eden. When people eat of the fruit of the knowledge of relative good and evil, they can no longer discern what is the right balance between the expanding and contracting forces of God. They can no longer discern the laws of God. Therefore, they begin to create a false image of reality, as Jesus has explained. They then begin to believe that this image is true and that they have a right to define their own “reality.” Once people believe in a false image, it becomes easy for the dark forces to manipulate them into fighting for one of the two extremes of totalitarian control or excessive freedom. These then are the two basic forces you see working in human society, one seeking to restrict freedom through excessive rules, one seeking to give a false freedom with no rules. I hope you can see that neither of these forces can restore the proper balance to society. This can be done only by following the laws of God and not the laws, or lack of laws, defined by man.

 

After people have lost the Christ consciousness, the gift of the Son, they become vulnerable to a perversion of the Holy Spirit. This makes them feel that the extreme to which they belong is the ultimate truth and the only key to survival. They feel there is an absolute need to either restrict freedom or to remove all rules. They might feel their authority comes from God through a particular religion, or they might feel that there is no God and therefore people have a natural right to be free from all restrictions. Either way, once people pervert the flame of the Holy Spirit, they feel absolutely justified in doing whatever is necessary to promote their “just” cause. They now easily fall prey to the luciferian lie that the ends can justify the means and that it is necessary to do evil that good may come. They are easily manipulated into a crisis in which it seems absolutely necessary to wage war to prevent some greater calamity or overthrow a tyrant. 

 

My Beloved, can you see that countless wars have been fought as a result of the perpetual tension between these two false polarities of the anti-father and the anti-mother? Can you see that regardless of what people believe, such wars can never serve to restore the balance of the true polarities of the Father-Mother God? Such wars merely generate negative energies that cut off the flow of the Holy Spirit, and this inevitably leads to a breakdown in society.

 

Even your physical bodies stay alive only because there is a flow of the Holy Spirit through all matter. This is truly what your scientists have described as the second law of thermodynamics, which states that in a closed system disorder will increase until the system self-destructs. The true meaning of a closed system is a system that has no flow of the Holy Spirit. Therefore, it inevitably becomes unbalanced and eventually self-destructs.

 


Spiritual blindness
The process of imbalance that leads to self-destruction will be driven by one or even both of the forces of excessive control or excessive demand for no rules. Yet the people cannot see that they are taking things too far into the extremes because they have refused to use the discernment of the Son. This will eventually cut off the flow of the Holy Spirit, and society falls into the ultimate imbalance of believing that it has a right to do whatever it takes to fulfill its goals. Those goals might be to prevent anarchy and chaos by imposing control, or they might be to remove a tyrant by setting people free from restrictions. Yet if people are willing to go to war, or violate the Law of Love, in order to secure their goals, it is proof that they have become unbalanced.

What often happens is that certain powerful people begin to believe that the ends can justify the means, and they seek to manipulate the population into supporting a war against their proclaimed enemy. The people in this elite really believe that this is a just cause, and their justification can even be expressed through a particular religion. People in that society now begin to believe that killing is justified by the laws of God, and they might even feel they have a holy duty to kill others in the name of God.

 

I hope you can now see that the belief that you should kill your fellow humans in the name of God is the ultimate triumph for Lucifer and the luciferian mindset. It is the ultimate justification for war among human beings, but it is truly an extension of the mindset that Lucifer used to justify his self-declared war against God. The statements, “Let us do evil that good may come” and “Let us kill people to bring peace,” were never spoken by God or a representative of God. They were spoken by beings who are trapped in the ultimate illusion that they are against God and that they are waging a war against God.

This leads to the ultimate form of ignorance in which people are completely out of alignment with the reality and the laws of God, yet they are completely convinced that their man-made or devil-made beliefs are absolutely true. Therefore, they feel the ultimate justification for using all means to impose these beliefs upon others.

 


War is the ultimate burden for the earth Mother
My purpose for giving you this long explanation is to show you that war is the ultimate cause of the imbalances that burden the earth Mother herself. Over the course of history, wars have generated a huge amount of misqualified energy that has been added to the energy field of the planet. At certain times, this energy reaches a critical mass of intensity, and it becomes too much for the earth Mother to bear. The energy is then released in an outburst that manifests as natural disasters.

In my previous discourse, I explained the five spiritual poisons and their link to natural disasters. I hope you can now see that the spiritual poisons spring from the state of ultimate ignorance that I have just described. When people are out of alignment with the reality of God, when people are ignorant and unbalanced, they start producing the spiritual poisons of anger, pride, greed and jealousy. They lose their will to be co-creators with God in this world.

 

Human beings are the highest link in the evolutionary chain on earth. Therefore, they have the responsibility for keeping the earth balanced. As Jesus explains throughout his website, people create through the power of their minds. The human mind has four levels, and each of them corresponds to one of the basic forces of the universe:

  • The highest level of the human mind is the etheric “body.” It is the seat of people’s sense of identity and the memory of their spiritual origin. This corresponds to the Father element. The task of the etheric body is to keep people in alignment with the laws of God and their highest potential—which is the potential for self-transcendence.
  • The next level is the mental body, the logical, rational mind. It corresponds to the Son, and its task is to maintain the vision of balance between the expansive and contracting forces.
  • The feeling body corresponds to the Mother. It function is to nourish the lifestream and all forms of life by maintaining a balanced and nurturing environment, in the home and on the planetary home.
  • The physical mind or brain corresponds to the Holy Spirit, and its function is to make sure that the material realm stays in alignment with the laws and the vision of God, so that it does not become unbalanced and self-destructs.

 

The dark forces seek to create imbalance in one or all of these levels of the mind in order to cause people to become so agitated that they lose their state of inner peace. When people lose their inner peace, it is only a matter of time before an outer conflict or war is the result. All outer wars start as a warring in the members, a war in the psyche, of individuals. When a critical mass of people in a society reach this state of inner war, outer war will soon follow.

You now have a deeper understanding of how people are manipulated into producing the spiritual poisons by thinking that their state of agitation is unavoidable, is caused by an outer enemy or is justified by the laws of a religion. I hope you see that the true cause of war is an unbalanced state, and therefore wars are never justified in the eyes of God. God is always in a state of perfect balance, so imbalance is never in alignment with God. The ultimate form of human imbalance is war itself, so how could war ever be necessary in the eyes of God?

 


The greatest need of the ascended masters
My Beloved hearts, I hope you can see that the greatest danger to life on this planet is war. Therefore, the greatest need of the ascended masters is to have the balanced people on earth make a never-before-seen effort to put an end to war on this planet. Obviously, stopping war will require many activities, including enlightening human beings to the teachings I have given in this discourse. They can then make informed choices about war instead of allowing themselves to be manipulated into conflict time and time again. Yet I must also tell you that war has been going on for so long on this planet that it has indeed become a self-destructive downward spiral. It is in the process of becoming a self-fulfilled prophecy.

As Jesus has explained, when energy is allowed to accumulate, it forms a vortex that becomes like a black hole and sucks everything into it. Because war has been going on for so long, there are a number of such energy vortexes, and they are so strong that they can blind or overpower people. Therefore, the people who are caught in such a vortex are completely unable to grasp the teachings that I have given you in this discourse. They are unable to see that they are being manipulated into waging war against others. Even if they could see it, their hatred for one another is so strong that they are unable to see that they are actually destroying themselves in the process.

 

My purpose for this long discourse is to show you that there is indeed a great need at this time for those who are willing to be the shock troops of the ascended masters. I need those who will make an effort to consume the energy vortexes and the momentums of war on this planet. I am in need of those who will be like the firemen who go into the burning city to pour water upon the fires of war and quench the flames and smoke, until people can see clearly and are not overpowered by the energies of war. I am come to give those who are willing to take on this task a powerful tool for consuming the energies of war. That tool is my Miracle Peace Rosary that is a special gift from my heart.

I am asking you to give this rosary at least once a week. However, if you have time, you are welcome to give the Peace rosary six days a week and give the East-West Rosary on Sunday. If you give the Peace Rosary only one day a week, I suggest that you give it on Saturday because it truly is a powerful foundation for the East-West Rosary.

 


Do not feel overwhelmed
My Beloved hearts, I hope you will not feel overwhelmed by my requests to give more rosaries, and I especially hope that you will not feel overwhelmed about the burdens upon the earth Mother. It truly is not my desire to overwhelm you, and I hope you will not feel so burdened that you become paralyzed, as so many people have become in this day and age. They are so overwhelmed by the many challenges facing society that they do nothing, because they reason, “What can one person do, what difference could I possibly make?”

I will be very honest with you and tell you that you alone cannot turn this planet around and start to turn back the tide of war that has been rising now for many years. Yet I will also tell you that if no one does anything to stop the tide, then surely the floodgates will one day be opened, and you will see a war that will be more devastating than anything seen in recorded history. You are all aware that the weapons scientists have created are more powerful than ever, and therefore the potential for destruction and loss of life has never been greater. So you see, I cannot promise you that if you give my rosaries, we will avoid war.

However, I can give you one certainty and that is that if everyone does nothing, there will surely be a third World War, and it will be more devastating than the two first World Wars taken together. So you see my beloved, you can make a tremendous difference. Even one person giving these rosaries will make a positive difference, and even though one person cannot turn the tide, the effort of a number of people can gradually build a critical mass that eventually consumes so much negative energy that a major war will not come to pass.

 

It is like throwing buckets of water upon a fire. One bucket seems to make no difference but many buckets will make a difference. Yet if just one bucket is missing, the fire might not be quenched. Your personal contribution could be the one that brings the power of the rosaries to the critical level and therefore makes all the difference in the world. So please do not feel that you cannot make a difference, and do not allow yourself to be paralyzed by the forces of this world.

You have heard the saying that, “For evil to triumph, it only takes that good men – and women – do nothing.” The truth behind that statement is that there are many unbalanced people on this planet who are prone to war and conflict. These are the ones who are easy prey for the dark forces that are using the tools I have described to manipulate people into war. These people are trapped in such a low state of consciousness, that they cannot stop a war. Therefore, the only people who can stop war are the people in a higher state of consciousness, namely those who are so balanced that they can hold on to higher principles. The devil knows this, so he has a two-pronged attack.

One part of his strategy is to agitate the people who are in a lower state of consciousness until their anger breaks out as open conflict and war. The other part of his strategy is to get the people in a higher state of consciousness to feel so overwhelmed, that they feel like they could not possibly make a difference, and therefore they end up doing nothing. Discouragement is the sharpest tool in the devil’s toolkit, and he uses it very efficiently against those who are the balanced people on earth.

Do you realize why this tool works so efficiently against the balanced people? It is because when such people look at the forces and the people who are creating conflict upon conflict, they cannot understand why these people will not stop the conflict. You see my beloved, you know in your hearts that you could never kill another human being, no matter how necessary it might seem. You know that you could never create the conflicts that you see all around you, and therefore you cannot understand why these people are doing it. Because you cannot understand how these people think, you feel powerless to do anything about it. That is why you feel overwhelmed and discouraged, and you end up thinking, “What could I possibly do to make a difference? Why even bother trying?”

Well, I have now giving you a deeper understanding of the spiritual cause behind war, and I hope you can see that there is indeed something you can do, on the spiritual level, to stop war. You cannot change people’s minds, but you now see that many people are simply overwhelmed by a vortex of negative energy. They have little chance of making the choice to stop their conflicts as long as they are burdened by this negative energy that turns their emotional bodies into raging volcanoes. So you see that by giving the rosaries and other spiritual exercises, you consume this energy and free these people so that they can maintain some degree of emotional peace and mental clarity. This gives them the opportunity to make the choice to abandon conflict, and this can indeed be the key factor that prevents the forces of war from being unleashed on this planet.

 

Finally, let me say that my rosaries always have a planetary and a personal effect. My Miracle Peace Rosary will not only consume the forces that create conflict in the world, it will also consume the forces in your own mind and being that cause you to feel that you are not at peace. I think that at some level of your being, you realize that one of the greatest needs and desires for human beings, one of the keys to happiness, is to have peace of mind. By consuming the forces that cause the imbalances that lead to a warring in your members, you will make great personal strides towards the ultimate goal of all spiritual seekers, namely the inner peace of mind, the peace that passes understanding.

My Beloved hearts, I thank you for your patience in enduring this long discourse, and I thank you for your love in giving the rosaries. Each person giving the rosaries lights up a corner of the world. If enough sparks of light will spring up, you will truly see the new day. In the name of the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit and the Mother of Peace, I seal your minds and hearts, I seal the four levels of your minds, with the impenetrable wall of my Miracle Peace. May you abide in that peace always and let it consume all warring in your members and the warring in the members of the body of God on earth and in the body of the earth Mother. In the name of the Prince of Peace, Jesus Christ, it is finished. Amen.

The first time I had ever had a tear in my eye was when he told me that little girls and little boys aren’t normally raped by their fathers


CKLN 88.1 FM Ryerson Polytechnical University Toronto, Ontario

Producer/Interviewer Wayne Morris:
Good morning, and welcome to The International Connection. We are in week #40 in our radio series on mind control, and today we begin an interview with Cisco Wheeler, co-author of “The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Mind Controlled Slave” and other books about trauma-based conditioning. Cisco is a mind control victim of one of the Illuminati families. She is a descendant of Ulysses S. Grant and has managed to gain a certain amount of freedom from her family’s control. She is currently working with Fritz Springmeier to help other victims of mind control heal. Cisco rarely does interviews, so we are very fortunate to be able to bring you this interview with Cisco Wheeler.

I would like to start off by asking you what your background is and how you first became involved in trauma-based conditioning mind control.

Cisco Wheeler:
I was first involved as an infant. My father came from a trans-generational satanic family. My life was planned according to a particular structure, from the beginning, as my father was a programmer for the Illuminati and the U.S. government.

Wayne Morris:
What political/military connections did your family have that you are aware of?

Cisco Wheeler:
We had a very strong political background. My father had political connections; my Great Uncle was General Earl Grant Wheeler,

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he was a direct descendant of Ulysses Grant.

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General Earl Wheeler was the head of the American military in the Vietnam War. He was the Joint Chief of Staff so we had a very strong political background. My father was also a Grand Master within the Illuminati. He worked on the west coast during the Vietnam War with his uncle who headed the military, to run drugs into this country to create a drug culture. The purpose of that was to destroy the structure within the family unit. The drug culture was the real purpose behind the Vietnam War. My father was also with the USO shows in the military as he was a musician; he was also involved with the CIA; and he was a 33rd degree Mason. Because of his being a Grand Master within the Illuminati, he was very strongly connected to America’s political structure. Because of the generational ties within the Illuminati, from the planned time of my conception, I entered into a world that was well structured, and well planned. And as a structured slave within the Illuminati, I too became connected to America’s political structure. As a small child I was groomed to sexually service the so-called elite within this political structure.

Wayne Morris:
Are you talking about people in the White House?

Cisco Wheeler:
Yes. President Eisenhower is the first president that I remember. He befriended me as a small child. I would sit on his lap, sing to him, there were sexual gestures back and forth. I was being trained. I entertained governors, mayors, ministers. I was trained in sexual activity there, and I was part of the Illuminati function within the British Royal Family during elite meetings.

Wayne Morris:
How young do you remember when you started being subjected to trauma conditioning … from birth?

Cisco Wheeler:
I was traumatized in the womb.

Wayne Morris:
How did you first realize that your family was connected with the Illuminati?

Cisco Wheeler:
If you understand multiplicity, you understand there are many layers in the system. Because there are many layers, parts of ourselves knew, and had many memories of certain things happening in our life, but the front part of our system that faced the outside world, they had no recall or memory at all that associated them to Illuminati programming or trauma based mind control. So if I speak for the front part of our mind, they knew nothing was wrong at all, outside of knowing they had a very abusive childhood. They didn’t really know anything was wrong until my father died. When he died, that freed our mind to be able to retrieve memory, and at that point, they understood something was wrong. They started hearing voices and having flashbacks and having information that was retrieved, that they knew they didn’t have a “history” of and they couldn’t figure out what happened.
Where did this come from? This isn’t the way I think. Why would I be thinking about sexual issues when I have no recall of ever being sexually abused or why do I remember that I was in a certain place but yet I don’t remember … it’s all second hand. Do you understand what I am saying? So, it wasn’t until after my father died that they started breaking down the hypnotic walls within the mind that protected me from knowing what happened. Over a period of time, because of memory retrieval and flashbacks, and the trauma it was causing, they became extremely suicidal and they didn’t believe in suicide, they sought help. They went into a hospital for nine weeks and started working with a therapist, and after a time period they realized it wasn’t normal to want to die when your father died, and we found out there was a real deep problem.

Wayne Morris:
Did these initial therapists that you worked with have knowledge of mind control or trauma based conditioning techniques at the time?

Cisco Wheeler:
Very vaguely. We were one of the first multiples diagnosed in this area and we basically worked with our therapist and she learned. She made a commitment to us, and what she didn’t know, she found out.

Wayne Morris:
Your father was your main handler and programmer, and how old were you when he died?

Cisco Wheeler:
My father was my handler and programmer, and I was forty years old when he died.

Wayne Morris:
How did you manage to break free of your family’s control of your life at that time? Did other people step in …

Cisco Wheeler:
When the Master dies, generally the slave also dies, but because of our determination to fight the programming and to get to the bottom of what was happening within our mind, we were able to fight the suicide programming. >From there we started a journey into understanding that we were a structured multiple which we didn’t even know what that was … that we had a long road ahead of us, a hard road to travel.

Wayne Morris:
Did you have to travel that alone or did other people help you?

Cisco Wheeler:
No. I had a very strong support team. Several people in my support team were also victims of mind control.

Wayne Morris:
The people that weren’t, they had an understanding of the mind control techniques?

Cisco Wheeler:
No. We started this journey basically learning to understand ourselves, listening to ourselves, confronting each other within the system with this is what is happening with you, putting our notes together and realizing ‘hey we are getting our memories separately, we are feeling the same way, reacting the same way’, taking one step at a time because thirteen years ago, nobody really knew anything about MPD.

Wayne Morris:
Did your father also victimize other people?

Cisco Wheeler:
Most definitely. He was a master programmer.

Wayne Morris:
Did you have brothers and sisters that were affected as well?

Cisco Wheeler:
Not to the degree that I was. I was the firstborn.

Wayne Morris:
Is it because you were the firstborn that you were chosen for this kind of victimization or were there other reasons?

Cisco Wheeler:
In part. In the late forties the Illuminati wanted to infiltrate the churches because they understood the power of God within the structure of the church, and they had to find a way to infiltrate the church to break down that spiritual strength within the church, the power of the holy spirit that works within the church. They had to find a way to infiltrate that, and they wanted to bring the world into the churches so that the churches wouldn’t be so strong spiritually. That was part of my father’s job. In order to do that my father married my mother who was not Illuminati, nor was she ritual, but she did have a very strong religious background. She was that perfect example for the world, that perfect wife for the church, to set examples for other young women in the church. When my father married her, that was his way to infiltrate the church, through my mother.

Wayne Morris:
Throughout your father’s life, how did he go about infiltrating during this process?

Cisco Wheeler:
By becoming part of the church, by being a minister, by being ordained, by getting into the youth groups, becoming very friendly with the Elders and the Board of Directors within the congregation itself. This was the Pentecostal churches.

Wayne Morris:
You mentioned your father’s role in drug trafficking within the Vietnam War. Could you expand on that?

Cisco Wheeler:
When the Vietnam soldiers were killed and they brought their bodies back, drugs were hidden in the cavities in their bodies. My father’s responsibility was to get that from the mortician and it would be a controlled substance at that point, and he was the handler of that controlled substance. He wasn’t active in Vietnam. He was just the extended hand that was used within our government to make sure the drugs met their destination.

Wayne Morris:
Once the drugs came over into North America, what were your father’s connections in terms of the distribution at that point?

Cisco Wheeler:
I do not know. I was not allowed to know that. I didn’t see it. I was too young at that time … well, I wasn’t that young, but I was too young to be a part of that.

Wayne Morris:
Do you consider yourself completely free now of the influence from the Illuminati and your former perpetrators?

Cisco Wheeler:
No I do not consider myself completely free from the cult influence. We are continually harassed by external threats. We get a lot of phone calls, we get bullets in our windows, we get run off the road, we get letters, we get people that walk up to us in the grocery store and they threaten us. They let us know in their little way that they know where I am, what I am doing, and what I am up to, and that it’s not over until they say it’s over. They are calling the shots.

Wayne Morris:
Have they been able to access parts of you that you have not dealt with in terms of healing?

Cisco Wheeler:
In the past they have; at the present time, no. I am very careful on where I am and what I am doing. I am not careless with my time or my energy, and I don’t set myself up so that they can access me. I have other people answer my phone. I have other people read my letters. I have other people that walk before to make sure everything is okay before I walk into anything that I can’t handle.

Wayne Morris:
What effects has the trauma conditioning that you have undergone throughout your life do you have to deal with currently?

Cisco Wheeler:
I continue to suffer with the trauma based mind control in every aspect of my life. I have to deal with the fact that my father had a beautiful little girl and he didn’t want her love as that beautiful little girl that was born to him. I have to deal with the fact that he wanted a little girl but he wanted her to be shattered into a million pieces so he could structure every aspect of my life. And then I have to ask myself what did it take to splinter this 18 month old child into a million pieces? And you deal with questions like that. It is hard for the mind to comprehend what has been done to you because the mind always wants to protect itself to some degree so you take little ‘bites’ of it. But the mind is always processing material. Then I have to deal with the fact that they planned this – that’s what structured is. Structured MPD/DID was planned from the time of my conception and I am afraid that kind of hurts my feelings when I think about it.

Wayne Morris:
They had a definite structure in terms of knowing what they were doing when they were traumatizing you, and what the effects that would bring about …

Cisco Wheeler:
Exactly. They knew from A to Z what they wanted to do with my life and how they wanted to structure, what they wanted me to be, and what they wanted me to become. That is slavery. I had to deal with the body, soul and spirit because all parts of myself have been raped. I continually have to deal with memories; with spirit issues; issues within me – in my programming; how they dehumanized me; how they shamed me; how they traumatized me to the point that I didn’t even know who I was, what I was, where I was going. I didn’t even know I was a little girl at some points in my traumatization. They made sure they dehumanized me to such a point I became a kitten within myself. To be a little girl was to be tortured, to be punished, unacceptable. I have to deal with the spiritual issues because I was told God didn’t love me, he raped me, I could no longer have my name in the Lamb’s Book of Life, my name was taken out of the Book of Life, and then they continued to program me with hypnotically taking my heart from my body, using drugs, so I didn’t even know I had a heart. They dehumanized me to the point where there was no place to go except the family. No place to go.

Wayne Morris:
Were there other perpetrators involved in your family, other than your father?

Cisco Wheeler:
Oh definitely. I am trying to think of where I want to start. My primary programmer was Dr. Green, who was Dr. Josef Mengele. My other primary programmer was Dr. Black, who was my father.

Wayne Morris:
When did you realize that Dr. Green was in fact Josef Mengele?

Cisco Wheeler:
I always knew from my internal parts. My deeper parts were programmers and my father was trained by Mengele, he was his #2 man. We followed in my father’s footsteps. We were also trained to be a programmer. That was our specialized field.

Wayne Morris:
Did he say or use his name at some points?

Cisco Wheeler:
Yes, he did. As well he went by Dr. Fairchild, Dr. Green.

Wayne Morris:
What’s your understanding of Mengele’s involvement in mind control across the continent?

Cisco Wheeler:
I am sure that he infiltrated every state, and I know he has worked up in Canada.

Wayne Morris:
What state were you located when he was performing mind control on you?

Cisco Wheeler:
Most of my programming occurred in California and Oregon. In California at China Lake Naval Base; the Presidio north San Francisco; and the Letterman Hospital next to the Presidio military base. In Alcatraz there was programming that went on in the prisons there. And Scotty’s Castle in Death Valley in California. Also in Torrence, California. And at the State Mental Hospital in Salem, Oregon and in the big Masonic hospital called Dorenbecker here in Portland.

Wayne Morris:
What time frame would that have been in?

Cisco Wheeler:
1948-9 clear up to the middle 60’s.

Wayne Morris:
How did you begin the process of healing yourself into disabling as much as possible the programming that was done to you?

Cisco Wheeler:
By stabilizing myself. By making sure I was in a safe place where I could do my work without being infiltrated. By sincerely making that effort to go towards health above all else. To work diligently on my memories and my programming, and to be a truth-seeker. To find out, no matter what had been done to me, I wanted to know what had been done. If you don’t know where you have been, you don’t know where you are going. It was very important for me to go towards health, because once I realized what they had done to me and the depths of the programming, I was going to stand by and not say anything, be silent, let it not be spoken … I was going to beat the programming which has been hear no evil, see no evil, do no evil. I was going to beat that. I was going to tell. That was my determination that helped me fight the trauma of knowing what I had to learn about myself.

Wayne Morris:
The work that you had to go through to accomplish that level of healing – what does that involve in terms of dealing with your memories?

Cisco Wheeler:
I had to face the pain, the torture, face my own fears of the unknown, face the fact that my father didn’t love me, face the fact that trauma bonding is not love and no matter what they say as far as in the name of love, there is no love involved in this. I had to look deep inside myself and find that spark of life that was left because they so dehumanize you as they are programming you to be their slave, that for some the light goes out and there is no hope, but for myself I was fortunate. There was some hope and there as a light, and that light enabled me to have the courage and the strength I needed to go towards health.

Wayne Morris:
How did the people around you help you through this?

Cisco Wheeler:
My support team was very helpful. It consisted of three women plus myself. We were all programmed around the same time by the same programmers. My father was a very strong in their lives, because he was their programmer. That tied us together emotionally. All four of us had made the determination that we were going to walk out of this and that we were going to go toward health. We became very bonded, not only from what we knew had ritually happened to us, and through the shared trauma base. We stepped out of that and started building a new type of friendship of trust, lifting each other up, building each other up, being there for each other, having a listening ear, learning how to document our memories, to be there no matter what time of the day it was for the first five years. We all needed each other at any given point. Two of the three ladies have medical degrees, the other is a teacher — all four of us are free today because we stood together.
In our healing process the first thing we had to acknowledge within ourselves, and we each had to do this separately, is to acknowledge that we are MPD, that we are DID, and that we were generational families of satanism. Yes, we did practice satanism, and yes we were of the Illuminati bloodline, and yes, there is a lot of dirt in our lives, and yes, we don’t want to look at it. It was too painful to look at. But there came a time when we wanted to step out of our denial and I think that’s the most important thing in the healing process when I look back – we had the courage to look at our life and the reality in which it stood. We were programmed to be a programmer, and that gave us the ability to understand others as well as ourselves, and we could work together within a group, and we did gain a lot of strength from one another. But we also had to call a spade a spade. We couldn’t run away from what had happened to us. That was our strength. It gave us the courage we needed to keep fighting.
Once we realized that yes, we were under mind control, and yes, we were slaves for the Illuminati – we didn’t like the slavery in which we had been born into. We also didn’t like the idea that we never were given a choice as to what happened to us. We wanted to be free agents. We just didn’t know how to become a free agent. We had to fight for it. It didn’t come easy. The nights were filled with trauma. The days were filled with trauma and pain. The body, soul and spirit is continually in a warfare as it goes towards health. It does not like to release the hidden knowledge of what was done to us, everything was done to us in secret. Because of the programs it didn’t want to unravel itself and to do so was very very painful.

Wayne Morris:
Was the ability for you and the other survivors to be able to find a safe place, to be able to undergo this work with others – was this a significant factor in being able to break that control?

Cisco Wheeler:
Oh definitely. Even to the point where we would go to see our therapist, our handlers would be on the stairs of the building which we would enter to see our therapist – to let us know that if we said anything that would bring down the family or to expose the family, that we would pay for it later. They would be waiting for us. In other words, have a good time, enjoy your therapist, but we will be here waiting when you get out. The torture that came – you had to face them every single time you went to see your therapist, you had to face knowing they could be around a corner, or even run you off the road on the way to the therapist. They may burn your house down, or they may put a bullet through one of your children’s heads, or through your bedroom window, or they are going to get to you one way or the other. You have to work with threats, the lies. That was at the beginning of our therapy work. Just to get through the trauma of the threat would keep most people at home. But what it did for us and the other survivors is that we became so angry that we decided we were going to fight them, even until death, because it’s not over until God says it’s over. When He says it’s over, that’s fine, we are ready to go home. We are going to fight this. We are going to win.
Before when we were under mind control and the memories were taken from us, we didn’t have a choice. We didn’t have a say in what they did to us. But this time it is different. We have a say. We could walk into the therapist’s office or we could choose not to. But to have the ability to say ‘even until death I am going to go to therapy, I am going to continue this journey’ there was a lot of strength that came with that, because every time we took a step in the right direction, it gave us the power that we needed.

Wayne Morris:
So you found a lot of strength in the anger.

Cisco Wheeler:
Even when they got a hold of us in the first five years of our therapy, and they did get a hold of us, and they did torture us, and they did apply electrical shock, they did drug us, and they did rape us, over and over, they continued these things the first five years. Even after the trauma, it was still worth it. Because it was the first time we knew we were human. We had been so dehumanized from the trauma of the mind control, that just to have a spark of humanism, to really have the reality, “I am not a kitten.” “I am a child, I am a woman, I was once a little girl.” “It was all lies.” You are willing to die for the truth …

Wayne Morris:
You mentioned about trauma bonding … can you explain to our listeners what that is and what it meant for you in your case?

Cisco Wheeler:
For instance, Dr. Green. He used to put us in the hot cages in the desert there, they were sweat tanks. He would come out there, after we had no water and no food for a number of hours (it seemed like days to us). We were told it was days, but common sense tells us that it was hours. These cages were set up so we could see outside the cages (like animal cages). In my memory, off to the left me were other cages … with small children 2, 3, 4 years old. Green would come out there and he would have a daisy in his hand and he would walk through this area where we were being held in these holding tanks, and he would walk up to me and he would say, “I love you, I love you not, I love you …” If he said “I love you not” I knew I was in big trouble because he had already set a prior example to me by walking in front of the cage to my left, and he told the little girl that he loved her not when he reached the last petal of his daisy. At that point, she was taken out, and she was eliminated in front of me. In other words, her life was taken from her at that point, to show his power and his control, and what would happen if Dr. Green ceased to love you.
What I failed to understand as a child, with a child’s mind, is that it was set up. The murder did take place but the thing is, these were what they called “expendable” children. As for me, I was Illuminati, so they weren’t going to eliminate me because they had a reason for me, they had my life planned for me. Part of the grooming is to set the stage. The script was played out when Dr. Green eliminated the child in the cage. I was to see all this, because it was a power play. If that’s love trauma bonding, “I love you Dr. Green, I love you very very much because you could have said you didn’t love me and I would be dead”. He did “love me” because he “spared my life” – but it also showed me the power that this man had. Try to translate that into a child’s mind when they are only four or five years old.

Wayne Morris:
Do you feel that the unpredictability of the trauma was a factor in the trauma bonding?

Cisco Wheeler:
Definitely. You never knew when you were going to be loved and when you weren’t going to be loved – at any point there could be a change of direction. When my father was kind as my programmer, he was very kind but when he was ruthless, he was ruthless to the core. There was no humanism. He became less than a wild animal himself, there was nothing he would not do to get his point across. We have parts of ourselves that love him dearly to this day, who will always love him, they look up to him.

Wayne Morris:
How many other children were involved in this, that you were aware of, at the time?

Cisco Wheeler:
I knew in 1968 that there were over 2 million MKULTRA’s. Since then I don’t have the awareness or the knowledge because I am not seeing the paperwork or the records to tell me how many. If I was making a guess, I would say 10 million.

Wayne Morris:
How did you know 2 million were involved?

Cisco Wheeler:
Because I was a programmer and I saw the documented records on this.

Wayne Morris:
So they have been able to program victims to program other victims … how did they go about doing that?

Cisco Wheeler:
They train you on the job. You have to realize within the Illuminati structure there are many levels to the system. My mothers were trained in programming. That’s at the Illuminati level.

Wayne Morris:
They trained you in programming techniques?

Cisco Wheeler:
Yes.

Wayne Morris:
What kind of people did they make you perform this kind of programming on? Were they other Illuminati family members?

Cisco Wheeler:
They were all Illuminati children. We did not work outside of the Illuminati structure.

Wayne Morris:
As an Illuminati family member, what did they have in mind for you, why did they want to program you?

Cisco Wheeler:
The sole purpose – at the deepest layer of the system – lies mothers. They are the foundation. You have three mothers who are on a pedestal – their sole purpose is to rule and reign with the antichrist as his queen when he takes his throne. As god has a bride, so lucifer has a bride, and that bride is the mothers of darkness. That is the bottom line.

Wayne Morris:
Who would be this antichrist figure? I have heard of the name, “Lord Maitreya.” Is this one candidate?

Cisco Wheeler:
He is one of the forerunners, a disciple. You have to understand the luciferian belief system and the way that the structure within the Illuminati is laid out. It is laid out according to god’s word – so that it can stand, or it can be blasphemous of who god is. But when god sent his son to the earth, christ had twelve disciples that followed him. The antichrist is going to be like three in one, and he will also have twelve forerunners. This is where Maitreya comes in. He is a forerunner. John the Baptist was a forerunner for christ.

Wayne Morris:
Do you have any information on how they are going to accomplish this?

Cisco Wheeler:
They have already accomplished it … by taking our constitutional rights away from us … by having a government within a government, like a box within a box. By creating famines, by having wars and rumours of wars, by the American people and the Canadian people no longer having the freedoms that once were theirs.

Wayne Morris:
In a global sense, how is this related to what is known as New World Order?

Cisco Wheeler:
The New World Order is a body of people within the Illuminati, thirteen major bloodlines that rule the world and they set the stage, they play out the script, and there will be a complete fulfillment of what they have staged for the American people, Canadians, and the world. There is no doubt about it.

Wayne Morris:
What kind of things do you expect will occur in the future that relate to this?

Cisco Wheeler:
I believe that the people in the world are going to wake up some day very soon and realize that the stock market has crashed, that financially the world has been crushed. They are going to realize that their food and grain has been contaminated, that their medical field has been dominated by the Illuminati medical force because the Illuminati has infiltrated every aspect of our lives. They are going to realize that we don’t have the freedom to even speak for our children, that the government has more to say in regards to our children than we do, they can take them and control them at any given point. We are going to realize that the churches are not what they seem to have been – that the churches have been infiltrated. There is nothing left. There is nothing that has not been touched by the Illuminati and its family.

Wayne Morris:
Is there a time when this is going to be implemented in terms of a one world, military government?

Cisco Wheeler:
Definitely. I expect 1998 to be a year of turmoil as far as people coming to terms with the knowledge that the government is not what they thought it was, the church is not what they thought it was, people they have looked up to are not who they thought they were.

Wayne Morris:
What kinds of things do you believe these power groups who belong to the Illuminati will try and implement in terms of controlling people’s anger and responses to what they’ve got planned? What is their retaliation?

Cisco Wheeler:
To eliminate the people as a whole – anyone who doesn’t come under submission of the New World Order will be eliminated.

Wayne Morris:
Do you think they will use the mind controlled victims to implement that?

Cisco Wheeler:
Most definitely.

Wayne Morris:
How do you think that is going to come about?

Cisco Wheeler:
They can use any slave that has been under mind control to accomplish any goal they have set forth with an access code, they can blow up a bridge, they can assassinate any leader – a governor, mayor, pastor – anyone that gets in the Illuminati’s path, who will not bend or bow to the Illuminati structure – they have slaves in force who will just go and eliminate them. Whatever is needed, it is there. I guarantee you it is there.

Wayne Morris:
There have been quite a number of survivors of mind control talking about end-times programming where they know they are going to be triggered to do something. Is this related to that?

Cisco Wheeler:
Yes it is. Most definitely is. There is a clock ticking and it is going to strike midnight soon, and when it does, all hell is going to break loose within the world.

Wayne Morris:
Do you have an idea of a date?

Cisco Wheeler:
I do not give dates. I am not God and things can always change. The timetables can change because of circumstances surrounding what they are trying to accomplish. It can either rapidly speed up or time can stand still because everything has to work like a ticking clock – everything has to be in its place in order for the New World Order to come about. Everything has to be in its place.

Wayne Morris:
What do you think people can do out there to try to stop this or to prepare themselves for this?

Cisco Wheeler:
I believe that people need to understand there is a time to weep, and there is a time for war, every man and every woman should have the insight or the foreknowledge within themselves the answer to themselves. When they look around, if they are honest with themselves, they can see that the world is falling apart at its seams, something big is coming down, they need to look at themselves. Listen to themselves. Look and see and hear what is happening around them, and they need to start preparing themselves for the worst because the worst is coming. They need to be in a place, and in a state of mind that when the military soldiers are knocking at their doors and come after their children to take them down, that they say “not me, not me, not me and my house.” We are in a fight. There is a time to fight.

Wayne Morris:
Part of your strength, as you said, has been from your anger in terms of trying to expose what they have been doing. What have you been doing since breaking free to a certain degree in terms of exposing what they have been doing? How have you been getting the word out to the public?

Cisco Wheeler:
I have co-authored three books with Fritz Springmeier, and in co-authoring these books we have taken our internal information and our knowledge that we have had because of our own experiences in the Illuminati and we have put it to the page. In other words, we have written it. Because we are a programmer, we understand the inside and the heartbeat of lucifer himself, because mind control and the Illuminati are nothing more than the heartbeat of satan himself, to bring down God’s people, the world as a whole.

Wayne Morris:
What more do you think needs to happen in terms of exposing this to the general public?

Cisco Wheeler:
I believe that to understand what is going on within the heartbeat of the Illuminati, that you need to understand what the Illuminati are — who they are, what they are, and what they have done. To understand something you need to have foresight — without foresight you are walking in the dark and you are going to think you know but you really do not know until you come in contact with it — even if it is through the pages of the written word. It’s out there — it’s written. Whether it’s me or Fritz or someone else, there is written material on mind control and people need to know what’s been done. If they don’t know what’s been done to them, they are never going to know what can be done again to their families and their families, and their children.

Wayne Morris:
So what elements in terms of the Illuminati’s belief systems and what they have been doing — what elements are essential for people to understand?

Cisco Wheeler:
They need to understand that the Illuminati are satanists and that there isn’t anything they will not do. They are gods unto themselves. They think they are gods and they are only serving lucifer. They have taken oaths to lucifer to serve him as their prince, as the father of light. They have taken blood oaths in order to see this, to see it done, to see the fulfillment of the end-time, to see the antichrist take his throne. They have done this for centuries.

Wayne Morris:
Do you think it is important that the general public understands the mind control aspects of this and how they have accomplished mind control?

Cisco Wheeler:
Most definitely. If they don’t understand mind control, they are not going to understand what’s happening in their backyard or in their schools or in their churches or in politics. They need to understand how they have been totally controlled from the cradle themselves — that most everything they have been told is a lie.

Wayne Morris:
How important in terms of the Illuminati’s bloodline is mind control on their own family members? What part does that play in promoting their goals?

Cisco Wheeler:
The Illuminati are very loyal unto themselves. They are gods. They see themselves as gods, and they stay within the Illuminati structure, within the royal bloodlines, within the thirteen ruling families. If you are not generational, you are not going to get into the Illuminati because this is passed from generation to generation from son to daughter to daughter to son, to father … it touches everyone within the family for generations. This isn’t something that just happened.

Wayne Morris:
It seems to be something more than just normal family allegiances at work here in that they have traumatized and mind controlled their own family members. I sense that has been an important part of perpetuating their end goals?

Cisco Wheeler:
That’s true, because their allegiance is unto lucifer who I now will call him satan, that’s who he is. They believe in the doctrinism of satanism that if they rule as gods and they are obedient to the call which is lucifer’s call upon their life because they made blood oaths with him, then they will rule and reign with him in hell. They don’t fear hell. They have no fear of hell. They only believe if they do what satan asks them to do, which he does tell them what to do, that they will stand as gods with him in hell and they will rule the people in hell. They will become gods with him. That is the big lie. They believe this. What can I say? That is the bottom line of the doctrine. They believe they will be gods in hell. And they all want to be gods because they see themselves as gods. As a god, they come under no authority except lucifer’s authority. Lucifer does their bidding for them. He tells them exactly what to do, what he wants, and they will do it.

Wayne Morris:
Do you think this is driven by just the drive for power and the seduction of power? Is this what is underlying their motivation?

Cisco Wheeler:
It has to do with money, honour, power and glory — it has to do with demonic entities — with generational spirits.

Wayne Morris:
So they have aligned themselves with …

Cisco Wheeler:
With lucifer and his demonic entities, yes, they are very demon possessed.

Wayne Morris:
Both you and Fritz have been helping other victims of this trauma-based mind control. How has the understanding of the programming techniques helped you help others?

Cisco Wheeler:
I have been able to help other victims of trauma-based mind control as I have made myself available to counsel without any charge. Also I have had — because I have co-authored books with Fritz — I have the information out there and they are wanting to talk to me about some of the material that has been written in the books because many of them have been facing the same issues and the same problems. Sometimes they just need a listening ear. Also in working with victims of mind control I can understand them in the complexity of who they are and for what has been done to them, without being judgmental. When they tell me they are MKULTRA and Dr. Green or Dr. Black or Dr. Blue or Dr. Star has programmed them and they have memories of this, immediately my heart becomes one with them because I have been there. I have walked in their shoes, and I know what they are going through. I want to hear what they have to say, and I care what has happened to them. I care. I see their journey — not that I take on their journey — but I see their journey and whatever I might say may give them the strength they need to continue to go towards health, and that’s very important to me.

Wayne Morris:
I am wondering when you are working with other victims, has the act of remembering the trauma of their conditioning, does that help to disable the programming or conditioning?

Cisco Wheeler:
When someone else can walk where you have walked, or say yes, I do acknowledge that — it’s confirmation. We need confirmation. Because the atrocities that have been done to us in order to enslave us to the degree in which we were enslaved under total mind control that we didn’t even know we were alive and well on planet earth without permission – you know what I’m saying?
When someone calls me and says “I remember such and such” and I’ll say, “you’re right on track — your mind never lied to you — I can confirm what you are saying — these things did happen and yes, I am very familiar with this program.” I will not tell them about the program because that’s very dangerous to do so, but I will let them tell me what they know. Then I will give them the confirmation as to where they are.

Wayne Morris:
What other kinds of things can be done for victims in terms of their own healing and memory work? What else do you recommend for them?

Cisco Wheeler:
I think one of the most important things to remember is that we were all slaves. We were ruled and controlled by the harshest hand of mastery. We were controlled by very sadistic individuals and we were terribly, terribly treated. You wouldn’t treat an animal the way we were treated. You wouldn’t — it’s important to be sensitive to that because it’s very painful. The body has felt raped, the mind has felt raped, the spirit has felt raped. And we need someone to say this really hurts and we need to have someone to say “you know I didn’t walk where you have walked and so I can’t totally comprehend what you are saying to me, but I am listening, and I truly believe what happened to you did happen to you.” Because we have been so programmed to believe that if we tell the world that the world will call us a liar and they will stand us up and either shoot us or put us in prison for the crimes that have been done or that no one is going to believe the atrocities anyway. Did anyone believe about the Holocaust? The world didn’t want to hear about the Holocaust. They didn’t believe it. It’s been how many years — and people still don’t want to believe that the Holocaust really did happen. And what happened to us is no less than what happened in the concentration camps.

Wayne Morris:
Do you feel that they have done particular types of trauma and conditioning that would set you up to be disbelieved by the public?

Cisco Wheeler:
Oh definitely. When someone like myself or Mr. Springmeier start telling you things about ritual abuse and satanic holidays and yes, they do this, and they do a,b,c and d, the mind goes “Uh, uh. I am going to shut down, you just hit a block here, I don’t want to hear it.” To hear it means that everything you have been told in your life all of a sudden is a lie. These things do happen. We are programmed within the story lines of fairy tales, etc. and that helps us.

Wayne Morris:
I talked about this with Fritz about how certain cultural – stories, movies, books are used … Wizard of Oz …

Cisco Wheeler:
Alice in Wonderland, make believe …

Wayne Morris:
So this is done for a couple of purposes, both because of the prevalence of this type of material out in our ‘cultural’ world — this reinforces the programming.

Cisco Wheeler:
And even if you haven’t had the trauma-based mind control, you are still in a world of make believe because you are conditioned to a world of make believe through the fairy tales. There isn’t any reality here, but the mind always wants to go back where it is safe.

Wayne Morris:
It seems like some of these programmers also have done things deliberately to discredit any accounts coming — afterwards — in terms of the victims, like them dressing up like Santa Claus — just being ridiculous …

Cisco Wheeler:
They do that so it invalidates you — there are certain programs that if you remember this or that — and I don’t want to say it over the phone because I certainly don’t want to be responsible for triggering someone out there — but if you remember certain informatiion you immediately go into an insanity mode. These insanity modes are put in at a very deep level with hypnosis and drugs, and when you hit one, if you don’t have a support team that you need, you will go insane. And you will end up in a mental institution. Who wants to believe someone that spent the last six months in a mental institution?

Wayne Morris:
In a general sense, I wonder if you can give some information to our listeners to sensitize them as to what kinds of things were done, what kind of techniques were used for the purposes of mind control? You mentioned hypnosis and drugs, trauma ..

Cisco Wheeler:
Yes, and electrical shock. I always speak for myself, and I go back to eighteen months when they wanted to make sure they splintered my mind. My father was my primary programmer, but he was also my father and when I was born I was isolated with my father in a small room within the environment of our own home, where my father became my primary care provider. I looked up to my father. By the time I was 18 months, because my father was a programmer, he could control my liver, my kidneys, my heart rate, my pulse, my respiration.

Wayne Morris:
How did he accomplish that?

Cisco Wheeler:
Through hypnosis — I was so trauma-bonded to him. My survival depended totally on him. I was not exposed to the outside world. He was my handler, in every sense of the word. He fed me, he bathed me. I also was a premature birth which was very important because I was a very weak child when I was born. I weighed 2 lb. 1 oz. and he conditioned me through his voice – he always told me he could control me. He loved me to the point that, even in my infancy, as a newborn child, I was totally dependent on him for my life.
When I was 18 months old I was taken from him which was a shock for me because I had never been separated from him, and my first trauma came when I was raped by him. When he finished raping me I had to have reconstructive surgery done to repair the damage. That was the trauma that splintered my mind into a million pieces. I shouldn’t say “million”, it feels like a million to me — rather thousands of pieces.

Wayne Morris:
What kind of things were you conditioned to do — you mentioned sexual slavery — what other jobs or operations were you programmed to do?

Cisco Wheeler:
I have Beta and Delta alters which are espionage alters — they specialized in martial arts. They were alters that were used for blackmail of politicians, ministers, anyone that needed to be blackmailed in order to bring them under the subission of the Illuminati.

Wayne Morris:
How would this blackmail occur?

Cisco Wheeler:
Usually through a sexual act. Usually there would be a stage where they would have sex with a certain person and that person, during the sex act, would be traumatized to such a point that the person died and they would be blackmailed that they committed murder, when in fact they didn’t. There are many different ways to set up blackmail. It would be recorded and that would be the sex slave’s responsibility to do that, and to set that individual up.

Wayne Morris:
Who would be the people behind the blackmail?

Cisco Wheeler:
The Illuminati, the family, who wanted that person under their submission, under their rule, from that day forward. Deltas were assassination alters for anyone who doesn’t want to follow the orders of the Illuminati — anyone who wants to feel like they are bigger or better or stronger or more powerful, and can step outside the authority of the Illuminati and live — will be eliminated. We also laundered drug money. But you need to understand that these particular alters don’t live in the outside world, they live within the mind, within the construct of the mind. When they are needed, they are accessed through a specific code, they are brought up to awareness, to the front of the mind. They are then given the program as to where they are to be, what they are supposed to do, and then after they have done the job they are immediately traumatized again through electrical shock. That memory is shattered again in the mind and then they are put to sleep until the next time. They have no awareness of what’s going on in the outside world, or that there is even another world except for the world they are programmed to function in.

Wayne Morris:
The electroshock served to wipe out the memory of the operation?

Cisco Wheeler:
As long as you do it within 48 hours.

Wayne Morris:
You and Fritz have been going public with this information. I understand you have been doing a number of radio shows, you have written books and people have contacted you about that. What kind of response have you gotten from the public with the information you are presenting?

Cisco Wheeler:
We have had very positive response from a lot of therapists, psychologists, psychiatrists, ministers, people within our own government. We were just told several weeks ago that there are two congressmen who are reading the books and they are pleased with what has been written, because they know what we have written is factual and they are glad that it is getting out to the public. We have had people say that next to God’s word, this book should be in every home, on every shelf, in every library … Of course it has shattered a lot of their dreams and foundational structuring they have had within their own environment whether that is home or school or church, because things aren’t as they seem. People who are truth-seekers are willing to pay that price because that may be the only way they can save themselves and their children.

Wayne Morris:
So some of the professionals who have come across your information have dealt with these issues in their own work …

Cisco Wheeler:
Oh most definitely. My work has been confirmed by a number of professionals, and they say it’s right on. Some of them have worked with multiples for twenty or twenty-five years, and they have confirmed my work.

Wayne Morris:
And what generally is the response from people who have not been exposed to this, just the general public?

Cisco Wheeler:
It’s like a culture shock. If you can imagine going into Japan and not being able to speak Japanese – you wouldn’t even know how to get a cup of coffee if you wanted one.

Wayne Morris:
And it must be even more of a shock because it’s own culture they are confronting.

Cisco Wheeler:
It severs the traditional lies because if you are going to work in truth and you are going to have integrity then you have to see what is in front of you. Our book certainly puts on a light on the darkness so you can see what has happened to you. It’s not only multiples who are programmed – the world is programmed. We are programmed to believe our presidents are men of honour, men of great integrity. Our presidents are rotten bastards – they are pedophiles, they are drug addicts, they practise high magic, they practise ritual. They think nothing of live sacrifice of small children. They think nothing of having their own slaves available to them. That’s the way it is, that’s the truth.

Wayne Morris:
In terms of the books you’ve written – how much have they gotten out to the public – is it yourselves who are distributing them or do you have distributors?

Cisco Wheeler:
We are self published. If we had a publishing company distributing them, the Illuminati would buy them all up and have the right to them, and we would lose our books.

Wayne Morris:
They would just disappear …

Cisco Wheeler:
They would just disappear. We can’t risk that.

Wayne Morris:
I also wanted to ask you – are you aware of your father’s connection to any of the people involved in the CIA MKULTRA projects?

Cisco Wheeler:
Definitely. He was Dr. Green’s left hand man. Dr. Green trained him. Also, Dr. Star, Dr. Blue, Dr. White … these are alibi names. I know their real names but for the sake of survivors who might be listening, I prefer not to trigger them. That would be a very dangerous thing for me to do.

Wayne Morris:
What more do you think the public can do to help victims of mind control? What can the average person do to help?

Cisco Wheeler:
The average person can be a support person, they can contact ministers who are working with MKULTRA mind control survivors, they can contact therapists and say ‘I’ve learned about MKULTRA, about mind control – I’m just beginning to have a picture of what has happened to these individuals who have been traumatized from their birth’. Ask ‘how can I help you?’ Can I work with you as a therapist, as a minister, as a layman – can I work with you to understand what mind control is? And as I grow and as I understand this subject at a deeper level, then can I reach out and be that hand extended to a survivor out there? Can I be there when they have ritual holidays that are approaching, when their mind wants to have flashbacks as to what happened to them during those ritual holidays? Can I be there to help that individual who can’t get out of their house because they are so trauma-bound at this time because they are working on programs or they are fearful for their life and they won’t even go to the grocery store because they are terrified? Can I be there to wash that dish because that survivor may not have the strength because she or he is working on their issues, and they are too weak to even do dishes. Can I be there to sit in the middle of the night listening to you because you are in so much pain from what you remembered? Can I be there at night to hold your hand? Can I be there to support you? Those are the little things that give stability to continue because you have to understand, as a survivor, in order to go towards health, everything that was done to us, in order to come out of this healthy, we have to re-live every trauma that was ever done to us. We have to know it with the full impact of our emotions, every sense of ourselves with these five senses that God gave us. We have to see it, smell it, touch it, hear it, feel it.

Wayne Morris:
It’s just so difficult for people to understand what you have to go through.

Cisco Wheeler:
I can speak for myself and only for myself because I have experienced it – some of the memories I have had to go through in order to go towards health – as I was going through the memory I would lose control of the process which I needed to work. There’s a certain process in retrieving memories that you need to focus on that – there are certain things that you need to do to keep the memory intact, so that the mind doesn’t re-splinter itself. If the memory of what was done to you is so powerful that it splintered your mind when you were traumatized. Every memory we have re-traumatizes us. It’s a process – it’s something you have to learn, over and over again – because every memory has a different feeling. Every memory has a different purpose behind it.
So those who want to be there to help need to learn about mind control. There are many people out there who are working with survivors and they need a break too. They need to have a few days off once in a while, and they need to be able to have a good night’s sleep. They need to know that if they want to go and do something special for themselves, that the survivor they are leaving is not going to be harassed all night or is not going to be contacted or is not going to walk out of that house and walk into a trap where they will be re-programmed or tortured. Because the Illuminati is just waiting for a slave to make a mistake and walk out of her house and meet their handlers. All programmed slaves have handlers, and they are just waiting for us. They answer to the Illuminati and their job is to make sure they punish us for what we have done, and that is that we have spoken against the family, we have seen what has been done to us, and we have not held our tongues, we have told, we have talked. And there is a great punishment that comes with that.

Wayne Morris:
For people listening who feel they may have been influenced by this kind of stuff, or know of people, what is your advice for them?

Cisco Wheeler:
I would advise them to seek out a therapist who has had training, at least five years of training, with MPD or DID victims. Who truly understand and believe that ritual abuse does exist on the planet earth. If you are trying to work with someone who doesn’t even believe that satanic ritual abuse exists, you are wasting your time. If you are trying to work with someone who doesn’t understand DID or MPD, you are also wasting your time because we have no time to play, our minds won’t allow us to, there is no playfield here. This is a life and death issue. If you are not in the right setting and working with the right person, they could cost you your life. There is a very high percentage of suicides in recovery for victims of ritual abuse.

Wayne Morris:
In your experience Cisco – how important was it having a strong support system to be able to heal?

Cisco Wheeler:
On a one to ten scale – it’s the top ten. Without a support system, you might as well forget it in my opinion. I was one of the more fortunate ones in my healing process – I had Fritz Springmeier who was my support team for many, many months and even into years he was there for me, twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year, day in and day out.
Therapists have this idea that – and I have heard top therapists say that it’s all right to work with a survivor – I prefer to use the word “victim” because we are continually victimized, internally and externally. They say, “well we can spend the one or two hours a week with them and if they get picked up by their handler, that’s okay, because we have still made progress.” I just about died when I heard this the first time. I thought, man, if you were the one who was picked up by one of your handlers and you were raped, or you were gun-raped, or you were bruised as bad as what I have been bruised, internally and externally, you wouldn’t be saying this. When they victimize you and they traumatize you and they de-program you, only the front part of the system is told to tell their therapist they are doing very well. The programs are so intact, and we are so fine-tuned that parts of yourself can be dying internally but part of the system will go to work every day never knowing anything ever happened. It’s pathetic. What people do not understand is how severe the trauma is when your handlers get a hold of you and what you could even do to yourself if you don’t have someone there. When those programs go off they are hot – they are hot as they were the day they were put in – whether that was twenty years or thirty years ago, it doesn’t make any difference – they are red-hot – and when I wanted to cut I wanted to cut myself – when I wanted to burn – I would burn myself. There were times when I had to literally be held down because I couldn’t help myself because the programs were so powerful. Therapists don’t understand, neither do people understand the depth of the programming – to what extreme they went to ensure everything they did to us would stay intact to be obedient to the laws that govern the Illuminati.

Wayne Morris:
So part of the role of your support team is in helping limit being re-accessed by your programmers?

Cisco Wheeler:
Oh yeah. And it takes a special individual like Fritz – I can only speak for myself because I don’t know anyone else who has been as fortunate as I was to have a support person who stayed with me during those hard times. He stayed with me when it wasn’t so hard, because there are lot of days that are good, days that are bad. Where we got into trouble – our front system is extremely powerful – very high functioning. They swore up and down that they weren’t being contacted, threatened, no harm had come to them in twenty years as far as they knew. That was their information. It doesn’t work that way because you have amnesia walls, you are not supposed to know. They go deep, deep into the system. I know the front part of myself – the alters within the front part of my own mind – they made contracts with their therapist, with Fritz, with God – there were certain things they wouldn’t do. There were boundaries they wouldn’t cross – no, they wouldn’t leave the house at 1 a.m. Well, you have sleep triggers and so forth during certain ritual holidays. The minute that front system lays down, there are deep parts that are ready and willing to go. The alters in the front of the mind go to sleep, the other alters slip out. The front alters think they slept all night. Well, we have been playing all night. You know what I am saying?

Wayne Morris:
It must be devastating to realize they have affected you at such a deep level.

Cisco Wheeler:
You cannot make contracts for the deeper parts of the mind because the mind doesn’t even know what’s going on within the front system, nor are they going to make it a commitment, because they are 100% programmed. They are going to do what they are told to do because they know nothing else. They only know the scripts which are running within their own mind.

Wayne Morris:
I think it’s a testament to your courage and strength to be able to have broken the control as much as you have, and to have gone through and dealt with what you have, and I think that sends out a hopeful message to other mind control victims out there.

Cisco Wheeler:
There is lots of hope out there for mind control victims if they have a very strong support system. Like with Fritz – he stayed with me 24 hours a day, and when it was bad, when I would go into memory and be triggered by something and programs would kick in – he was there to support me – to help me talk it through. And he taught me how to run the two tracks. One track I acknowledge as the program track and the other track is the de-program track so that I could balance myself out and get back on my feet. You can stay within a program for days if you don’t have someone to teach you how to free yourself up from the old messages.

Wayne Morris:
Can you explain how that worked? How you thought about the two tracks in terms of your breaking control?

Cisco Wheeler:
In my mind, I have the first track set up as: I wanted my life to be new – I made a commitment that I wanted a change of direction – I did not want to be what I was – I did not want to function in the degree in which I functioned working within the Illuminati. I wanted nothing to do with it. I wanted to wash my hands of it and walk away from it. I was very upset at what had been done to me, that my choices as an individual had been taken away from me from infancy. I totally had to acknowledge that I was under slavery. I didn’t like it, and my choice was ‘I’m out of here – I am going to find a way to get out of here if it’s the last thing I do – I would rather be dead than to serve them.” And I still feel that way and it’s been several years. I still feel very strongly that I would rather be dead than to serve them. I had to come to terms with the fact that I had to find a new way to function. Okay – I have a new track here and on that track I am going to go right across it in an unprogrammed state. You have to see the power, or realize in your mind how good it feels to be able to have a choice that you can make freely because that’s what they have taken away from you.
If you are a child and you have learned to walk and you go outside and get hit by a car, and your legs are crushed, and you have to be in a cast for months and months and you have to re-walk when those casts are taken off — as a survivor I have learned to walk. I had to learn to crawl, I had to learn to walk, now I can run, it’s a process.
I also know that I have a second track which is the old messages put in by the programmers which lead me in a state of total 100% mind control, under the influence of the old script, the old programs. I know when I am in that state, I am in a dangerous state. That’s when I would cut myself, run away, didn’t want to live, all the negatives in life. When the programs kick in from the subconscious to conscious awareness, the memories trigger the programs, they reveal themselves with the full impact of the trauma when they layered it into our minds so many years ago.

Cisco Wheeler:
In deprogramming we have to unravel the programming script and find the lie. When you find the lie then you can put the light on it and the lie loses its power. That’s where the miracle is. Your programs are lies. That’s all they are. Was I an ugly little girl? No. I wasn’t. Children aren’t ugly. Children are beautiful. I found the lie. They lied to me. Did anybody ever love me? As far as the cult was concerned no one could ever love me except the family because I was unlovable. Because of the crimes that were done to me, they put the guilt and the responsibility on me instead of taking the responsibility for their own acts as adults. They gave me the responsibility and I wore the coat of many colours. I had to weave a new coat and that’s where the two tracks help.

Wayne Morris:
It seems that they have been able to continue doing these horrific acts against other people by not taking responsibility or not taking blame for their own actions and externalizing that.

Cisco Wheeler:
I believe that for every survivor out there – when you were programmed in the womb and you were 100% under their control – when they tell you to cry, you cry. When they tell you to scream, you scream. When they tell you to eat, you eat. Every facet of your life is totally controlled by them. When Fritz found a part in my system, and he told me I was a little girl, I just looked at him and told him, “you’re crazy, I am not a little girl, I am a kitten.” I looked in the mirror and I had a porcelain face and on that a face is a kitten and that’s how they programmed me. They had so dehumanized me as a sex kitten that I didn’t even know I was a child. When I went through the memories so I could have an identity for myself, I realized that to be a little girl was the most painful thing in the whole world, because every time I was human in any sense of the word, or I thought I had any humanism as far as being a little girl, I was so severely tortured that I reached a place in my own mind that I never wanted to be a little girl. It was too painful to be a little girl.
They set up two cages for us – one cage was full of nice, beautiful little kittens – white, calico, black, persian gray. I was in the cage next to them with a pan that was hooked to electrical current. Every time I wanted water or to eat something, and I touched that pan, I was shocked. That’s just one little example. I was shamed, I was spit on, totally humiliated in that cage for being a little girl. The Illuminati, Dr. Green, my father, made sure that the kittens were fed whatever they wanted to eat. They were loved, petted, cooed at – just loved – for a number of days. After all the trauma I had gone through, I guess my little mind decided not to be the little girl, but to be a kitten. The kittens get to eat, are not lying in their feces naked, they are not being shamed, spit on, kicked. When I had memories of this, my body was so bruised from the kicks I had received from the Illuminati family in the programming that I had to wear the bruises on my body until I worked through the memory. That just gives you a little example of how far they go to make sure they get what they want.

Wayne Morris:
Extremely sadistic.

Cisco Wheeler:
I haven’t thought about it in about three years, but these little kittens are very powerful in my mind today as I am talking on the phone. I see these kittens, and how well they were treated. My father totally rejected me at that point. I loved my father very much because I was conditioned to do so. I loved him in his gentleness, and in his weakness and his strength, and when he was bad. It didn’t matter because the mind was set up to accept whatever he was.

Wayne Morris:
Do you feel your father was also a victim of programming?

Cisco Wheeler:
I have no doubt in my mind that my father was a multiple. My father was a genius at every level, but he had a gentle side, he was a musician as well as satanist. Like I said, he worked for the CIA, he was a 33rd degree Mason plus – there are many levels beyond 33 by the way. He was a Grand Master. He sat on the Grand Druid Council. He was a very wise man, just not wise in the right things. It’s too bad that his learning hadn’t been applied in other directions – he would have gone far. I can’t respect my father for who he is.

Wayne Morris:
Do you think he had a choice in the matter?

Cisco Wheeler:
No. I don’t because it was generational. He was trapped as I was trapped. But the difference between me and my father is that there was a part of my father that knew, even when the good side of my father that loved his family, worked in the workplace, was in the military — there is a real positive part about my father. He was a people lover, he loved people and people loved him. But I think there was a time in my father’s life when he realized what he was and what he was doing, I think the barriers within his own mind, within his own multiplicity, had broken down to the point that he knew, but he also knew he was in over his head. It would cost him his life to move away or to change directions. He was too far in.

Wayne Morris:
Then obviously the difference being that you chose, you made the choice to break away and to fight that.

Cisco Wheeler:
Right. And there is a willful act within the family, the Illuminati family, there is a willful act there. And I can honestly say the things we did, we did because we were groomed. We were programmed to do so, but when the light was put on, and we did the memory work, and we had a free choice to say “do we or don’t we?” our system didn’t want to. We wanted to do right, we wanted that hope, that chance to be what we really wanted to be that was born into us, and that was to be good. That’s the simplest way to say it. I still feel very childish, I feel like a child that wants to be good. I don’t want to be bad. I don’t like what was done to me and I don’t like what has been done to others. It’s been totally unfair. It has destroyed many, many lives. The one thing that I wanted to say is that when I first came out of the system and Fritz was working with me on a daily basis, I asked him, “these children in the world, do their fathers rape them?” He said, “no, good fathers do not rape their children.” It threw me for a loop, and I stood there and I looked at him and said, “I really feel sorry for these children in this world because they are not loved.” He said, “oh but they are loved” and I said, “oh no – if the fathers aren’t raping their children, then they are not loved.” I thought rape was love. That’s pretty sick.

Wayne Morris:
They just turned those ideas upside down.

Cisco Wheeler:
The first time I had ever had a tear in my eye was when he told me that little girls and little boys aren’t normally raped by their fathers, that is not the standard of living in which we live. And that upset me to such a point – that was the first time I ever felt a tear on my face. Because I really felt so bad that children were not being loved by their fathers. And it took me a long time to understand the difference, because right is wrong, and wrong is right, that’s how you are programmed. Isn’t it something, when you really think about it? I look back on it now, and I cannot believe the ability they had to do to my mind and so many other survivors out there. To what degree they would go.

Wayne Morris:
Especially to children.

Cisco Wheeler:
At Inucurran (sp) they had cages on the walls. They put us in the cages and the monkeys or the apes got to take care of us. We had three of them. One fed us, one beat us, and one raped us to dehumanize us.

Wayne Morris:
… God … oh boy …

Cisco Wheeler:
I still wake up and here I am in my fifties and when I was working on my memories at Inucurran (sp) in the cages — well see, whatever they want in the system — if they want a particular part in the mind to be a particular something they had to set the stage for that to come about.

Wayne Morris:
So that they are manipulating a particular context to achieve a certain end …

Cisco Wheeler:
Yes, a certain image within the mind. A child has creativity but they have to give us the creativity from which to work from because you have to understand that the mind is protected by the family in that it is hidden within itself, like a box within itself — boxes and boxes, many boxes and each box has a family within the mind or it’s all set up like a grid. A 13×13 grid and 13 deep, so your hidden parts get no influence from or to the outside world. When I came out into the world and I met Fritz, I had never known what the world was. I had the freedom of knowing how to go to the grocery store or where was it or what was it. I didn’t know because I was only programmed to do what they wanted me to. They would wake me up, give me my programs, put me on the right track as to where they wanted me to be. I would go do what they wanted me to do, as soon as I did it, back to sleep I went. I had no influence.
When Fritz told me that I had a family and a mother that was still living I thought the man was crazy. Here’s something else that will just throw you for a loop — I have seven grandchildren, that means I have three children of my own that are grown. When he introduced me to my son when he was thirty (he’s a pilot) out of courtesy I just said, well it’s very nice to meet you in my mind. Afterwards I told Fritz, you are absolutely crazy. You think I’m crazy — you guys, you’ve had it. You’re telling me I am programmed as a kitten, a sex kitten, and when I look in the mirror I see a porcelain face, a kitten’s face, and I am 17 years old and I am not supposed to age. When you look at me and I am fifty years old, and you look at me and take a picture of me I am 17. I still look 17, but the point is I was so totally 100% programmed that when Fritz wanted to give me the truth about what happened to my life, my mind couldn’t even receive it because I had so much programming. It took me two years to realize I wasn’t a kitten before I believed him. Two years of hard work every single day to break down the lies. That’s how strong my defense was. I looked at all these kids and this is what I said to Fritz: “Fritz you are absolutely crazy. You expect me to believe that this is my son. You are telling me that my son is thirty years old. I have no recall. I didn’t carry him.” I didn’t remember him when he played as a child. I had no identity with this child whatsoever, that’s how dark it was inside my world. I said, “He’s thirty years old, and I am seventeen — wait a minute here Fritz, something doesn’t add up. You’re crazy. You expect me to bite that apple? And I’m going to bite it and I’m going to believe this, right?” That’s the way the mind is. That’s just one example. He introduced me to my mother, to my sisters. I had two sisters that I didn’t know about.

Wayne Morris:
So as you went through your memory work did you regain those parts of your life in terms of knowing who your children were and …

Cisco Wheeler:
I have had to build relationships. As I was able to get stronger and work on the memories — first I had to acknowledge the lie — that is, that my father liked me. That was a very harsh lie for me. I could not believe that my father had ever lied to me, not my father. I cannot express how hard it was for me to acknowledge that my father lied to me. Because if I accepted the first lie, then I had to accept all the other lies. I didn’t want to. I did not want my father defaced. As time went on, months went on, then I had to face what he was and what he had done to others. If he did this to me and I was his child, oh my God, what has he done to so many other children being a programmer? And that just about killed me.

Wayne Morris:
Again, that must have been devastating to you.
I would like to thank you very much Cisco for joining us on this show. I know it’s very difficult to talk about these issues, and I really admire your enormous courage in exposing this.

Cisco Wheeler:
Thank you very much, thank you for asking.

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Wayne Morris:
We have been listening to an interview with Cisco Wheeler, a survivor of Illuminati family and U.S. government mind control. Tapes of this radio series are finally available at the office of CKLN, 380 Victoria in Juergenson Hall on Ryerson University campus. Tapes are $8.00 each and transcripts are $3.00 each. Catalogues are available listing all the shows. I would like to spend this next few minutes just commenting on last weekend’s CBC docudrama – The Sleep Room. In my opinion it was a little too heavy on the drama and too little on the docu based what we have heard on this radio series about Ewen Cameron and his role in CIA mind control on children. It was a two part series, and the first part I found particularly misleading in portraying Cameron as someone with “good but misguided” intentions — especially using the reason that he left the Allen Memorial due to finding out his patients were not being cured … also for what it left out about Cameron’s role in CIA mind control technology development, including his involvement with experiments on children … and other disinformation. The movie portrayed the CIA’s motive as being just to keep up to the Communists with mind control technology, and the portrayal that the CIA just started experimenting with mind control when it is a documented fact that the CIA had been producing mind control programmed agents ten years previous to that. They also portrayed Cameron as not being concerned with military and intelligence applications for his work — I find that a little hard to swallow. And not being aware of electroshock’s effects of wiping out memory — when he was an electroshock expert and trained many other psychiatrists how to use electroshock. Other disinformation was that the experiments didn’t “amount to anything” and were ultimately useless to the CIA when they have taken mind control technology far beyond what was portrayed and that it was useless is a lie. If CBC had done its homework, maybe they wouldn’t be perpetrating this lie. I don’t know, maybe they would. They made no attempt to link Cameron to the other well documented doctors involved in MKULTRA or what they were trying to accomplish, what their end goal was in creating Manchurian Candidate type mind control operatives.
The second part of the “docudrama” dealt with the survivors’ battle for legal justice. Some good things I thought were the portrayal of the Canadian government reps covering up for the CIA and the sheer sliminess of the CIA scum lawyers. However, it may have had the effect on people who were watching it, especially on people who aren’t aware of what is going on in mind control that justice was eventually served — even though the amount of money that the survivors received was really a joke in light of what these people went through. I felt that CBC considers this movie now closes the book on mind control atrocities, and that’s far from the truth. These atrocities, as we have heard in this series, are continuing today.
I thought it was unusual that David and Valerie Orlikow were excluded from being characters in the film when they were the driving force behind the lawsuit and also particularly because David was a Canadian Member of Parliament and the weight that would have carried to bring about the suit. I think it may have been satisfying for survivors of Cameron’s atrocious experiments to have seen the movie and how the survivors were portrayed in their search for justice, but the reality is that these people were not the only victims of Cameron and all of the other mind control doctors across Canada and the U.S. I do hope that the movie is raising public awareness about mind control and what Cameron did, and hopefully it will encourage public discussion about this, but I think many people might think that this happened a long time ago, it was settled, end of story. Well, the story does not end there folks. It’s continuing right here on CKLN, and we are continuing the series next week. Stay tuned, we will have an interview with Brice Taylor, former mind control slave used by the White House as a Presidential Model sex slave and by the CIA and other intelligence groups, and she is also the author of the book “Starshine: One woman’s valiant escape from mind control”.
You have been listening to CKLN 88.1 FM.

The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave


Truth shall set you free

It is my opinion that all of the awakening souls should read this work by Fritz Sprengmeier.

Fritz was working with Mind Controlled slaves that were coming out from the Illuminati.

While helping them to recover, he got to the root of the governing Illuminati system in place in our planet.

If you are out there and you want to know what you are dealing with this book is a must.

\Shogun

link to download: The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave